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stabbmesiter:
Hello Everyone,

Very neat distro, thank you. Not attacking in the least, just trying to understand a bit more.
Very quick and responsive and loaded using approx' 250mb!
I enjoy a good tinker of an OS and makes a change from arch and slackware, though in truth Bodhi linux is very good and currently my current most used.

Apologies if I have some of the basics wrong. I'm a user not a developer/technical person.

Running miyolinux (and hats off to this openbox config, very good and dig the name...'make it your own'). I have run across a few issues. Same issues encountered on nutyx 10.5 stable.  Not really problems just things I would like to resolve.

I fully expect that these 'issues' are down to my lack of knowledge but thought I'd post anyway.

Things I would like to resolve, no order of priority.

cards
cards pkgmanager is good though I would like to be able to see the dependencies of a package before I install it. I tend to use cli as flcards seems to use a lot of cpu cycles as per conky/htop/lxtask, using about 25% of total cpu. Worried that installing some gnome application will load all of the gnome DE.

keyboard
Having to setxkbmap in autostart (openbox) for my choice of keyboard as layout didn't work/set in the install (and isn't setup quick!). Files necessary to config this aren't present so can I just go ahead and create directories and populate or am I missing a package?
/lib/kbd/keymaps/i386/ is missing
/lib/kbd/consolefonts/ is missing
/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-keyboard.conf is there (typo in the nutyx manual, manual says /etc/X11/xorg.xonf.d/20-keyboard.conf)

acpi
Unable to load acpid (via /etc/sysconfig/modules - is this how I should load it?)
manual 'modprobe -v acpid' fails with modprobe: FATAL: Module acpid not found in directory /lib/modules/4.14.96-NuTyX-lts
'lsmod' shows many toshiba-acpi modules plus acpi_cpufreg loaded (my laptop is a toshiba)
typo in the manual (modprobe-v module) - no space after modprobe
acpid, pm-utils installed but no acpid in /etc/init.d. I've used the rc.acpid that I have in a slackware install (renamed acpid) and
loaded via autostart (hack) 'xterm -e sudo /etc/init.d/acpid start &' which works but needs a passwd also 'xterm -e sudo /usr/sbin/acpid &' works. I am able to suspend/resume (pm-suspend) and laptop suspends on lid close.

I clearly do not understand loading/unloading modules.

miyo-exit
After editing miyo-exit I have the options for suspend/resume on exit but they are not working as of yet.
Is this because there is no power group? I am a member of wheel and root user is created.
xfce4-power-manager is installed and running
Trying, and failing to bind miyo-exit and pmenu.py to keys (bindsym) in i3wm.

conky
Always shows network up, in conky, unless I 'sudo ifconfig enp0s26u1u1u2 down'. Can I just create /etc/network/interfaces for this or, again, is there a package that I am missing? or somenting else?
I use a usb 4G pendrive which presents itself as a wired connection with ability to connect wireless as well.

I counldn't attach a file, no option or I missed it.and adding the relevant bits in this post meant I exceeded max' post length 

Works fine in an arch environment

redshift
redshift-gtk fails to load with the following error

$redshift-gtk
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/bin/redshift-gtk", line 26, in <module>
    from redshift_gtk.statusicon import run
  File "/usr/lib/python3.7/site-packages/redshift_gtk/statusicon.py", line 31, in <module>
    gi.require_version('Gtk', '3.0')
AttributeError: module 'gi' has no attribute 'require_version'

redshift works fine from the cli. I seem to remember that this (redshift-gtk) worked OK in nutyx 10.5. As I've just dumped the stable system into a directory and could, if necessary, move it back to become the current system I could check.

audacious
Doesn't show song info pop up information (I'm using xfce4-notifyd, though prefer dunst). Option is checked in Song Info section of plugins.

lsb-release
I note that /etc/lsb-release indicates that rolling is the branch, DISTRIB_RELEASE="rolling", in miyo and that in stable it is DISTRIB_RELEASE="10.5" but that the files /etc/cards.conf in both rolling (miyo) and stable (10.5) are identical (diff command). Are all the upgrade pkgs mixed together in-house?

Great distro and I am not criticizing at all, just trying to resolve things. If I can figure out how to compile and get a few of my 'essential to me' apps loaded I could see this becoming my daily driver.

And boy of boy, it's quick and bloat free!

Regards and hope I haven't offended anyone.









oyim:
Hi stabbmesiter! No offense taken on my part. I'll try to answer Miyo specific questions the best I can, but I'm on my phone right now and limited to what I'm able to cover. Sorry.

I'll answer within your quote below.


--- Quote from: stabbmesiter on Sun Jan 27 17:44:04 2019 ---
miyo-exit
After editing miyo-exit I have the options for suspend/resume on exit but they are not working as of yet.
Is this because there is no power group? I am a member of wheel and root user is created.
xfce4-power-manager is installed and running
Trying, and failing to bind miyo-exit and pmenu.py to keys (bindsym) in i3wm.

According to the developer of PMenu, it will only work in Openbox or Xfce.  :-\

That's why I didn't include those options in miyo-exit...I could never figure out why I couldn't get them to work!  :-[

Did you add i3 on top of Openbox as another session, or did you do a minimal install of NuTyX and added i3 to that? I'm asking, because miyo-exit despends on yad. If you installed i3 on a minimal NuTyX installation, you'll need to install yad also.

I know it's not preferable, but when I ran i3 (long ago), I ended up binding certain keys to the actual commands themselves.

audacious
Doesn't show song info pop up information (I'm using xfce4-notifyd, though prefer dunst). Option is checked in Song Info section of plugins.

I also use audacious, but xfce4-notify doesn't work with audacious on my installation...it seems as though audacious has its own notification and takes a bit to set up in audacious' notification preferences.

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stabbmesiter:
Many thanks for the reply,
                     I've answered as best I can below - nothing here is a show stopper, maybe I'm taking the miyo concept too far. But it is kinda fun tweaking stuff.

pmenu-py
pmenu.py works fine in i3wm (via rofi/dmenu or terminal), it even presents as floating which is nice - saves me having to get menutray.

miyo-exit
It's not a biggy and I'm looking at how antix does it (icewm but transfers to i3 no problems) but I'm pretty sure that route is very distro specific and would require more intervention that I can be bothered with or capable of - manjaro also has a neat exit procedure for i3 (and so for openbox) but is systemd specific.
Or maybe just install oblogout - no idea as of yet. Probably stick with cli for now, or as you suggest bind keys to specific commands.

miyo or minimal install
I tried nutyx 10.5 minimum to start with - no problems but was interested in looking at rolling so installed the (your!) miyo iso - always like to have a good, clean wm (which miyo is) to return to after I've tried (usually failed) to get things working in another wm/de. Added i3wm, usually good compatibility with openbox.

audacious
Pop ups for audacious in manjaro xfce works fine, I'm thinking this is a dbus/mpris issue but I've no idea really.
Song Change works in Plugins ( notify-send '%a: %b:'   etc etc is Ok ), as does AOSD (which I've gone for with some changes) so the audacious issue is no longer an issue. Installing dunst will not work as there are dependency issues - libxss and libgtk-3-dev are not in the repos and we are starting to get into slackware (pure) territory so I'll be giving that a miss.

Now, about this acpid and keyboard.....

 :D

All the best and thanks!

Thierry:
Hello stabbmesiter

Welcome on NuTyX


--- Quote ---cards pkgmanager is good though I would like to be able to see the dependencies of a package before I install it.
--- End quote ---
CARDS find the deps of the package when after download it, means it does it "on the fly". Because of that it's not possible to know in advanced what will be necessary as deps. Remembe that the deps in NuTyX are always a MUST to have as everything is automaticaly found (at compilation time). And No they are no optionnal deps in NuTyX and they never will be.

oyim:

--- Quote from: stabbmesiter on Mon Jan 28 13:40:48 2019 ---Many thanks for the reply,
                     I've answered as best I can below - nothing here is a show stopper, maybe I'm taking the miyo concept too far. But it is kinda fun tweaking stuff.

pmenu-py
pmenu.py works fine in i3wm (via rofi/dmenu or terminal), it even presents as floating which is nice - saves me having to get menutray.

Ahhh...Okay. I wonder if the developer of pmenu knows that it works in i3? ;D

Menutray!  8)  About a year ago, I produced a Devuan-based i3, and I used menutray in it. For that one, I added Shutdown, Reboot, Hibernate, etc. as menu entries to the menutray schema.pl file.

miyo-exit
It's not a biggy and I'm looking at how antix does it (icewm but transfers to i3 no problems) but I'm pretty sure that route is very distro specific and would require more intervention that I can be bothered with or capable of - manjaro also has a neat exit procedure for i3 (and so for openbox) but is systemd specific.
Or maybe just install oblogout - no idea as of yet. Probably stick with cli for now, or as you suggest bind keys to specific commands.

I think I'll install i3 and see if I can figure something out for pmenu and miyo-exit...no promises for results!  :P  ;D

miyo or minimal install
I tried nutyx 10.5 minimum to start with - no problems but was interested in looking at rolling so installed the (your!) miyo iso - always like to have a good, clean wm (which miyo is) to return to after I've tried (usually failed) to get things working in another wm/de. Added i3wm, usually good compatibility with openbox.

audacious
Pop ups for audacious in manjaro xfce works fine, I'm thinking this is a dbus/mpris issue but I've no idea really.
Song Change works in Plugins ( notify-send '%a: %b:'   etc etc is Ok ), as does AOSD (which I've gone for with some changes) so the audacious issue is no longer an issue. Installing dunst will not work as there are dependency issues - libxss and libgtk-3-dev are not in the repos and we are starting to get into slackware (pure) territory so I'll be giving that a miss.

Now, about this acpid and keyboard.....

 :D

All the best and thanks!

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